“We Need Your Presence, Not Your Perfection”

May 12, 2020

“We Need Your Presence, Not Your Perfection”

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“We Need Your Presence, Not Your Perfection”

Episode Details

In the second episode of this year’s Black and White Miniseries, TWLOHA’s Director of Outreach Chad Moses explores the “We need your presence, not your perfection” statement with the help of writer, wellness educator, and former TWLOHA intern, Tianna Soto. Together they talk about finding your identity beyond titles and status, and a common experience known as “Duck Syndrome.” As a certified yoga and mindfulness instructor, Tianna also guides listeners through a brief meditation that encourages stillness and body awareness.

“If you were to take away your resume, your title, your name tag, if you were to stop going to work, like honestly a lot of us are experiencing right now at this time, if you're just to sit at home and be with yourself, who are you? And for me, I think it's helpful to ask those questions to ourselves and to others when we feel like we might be far away from ourselves because things like accolades and professional roles and titles can make us feel really safe and give us structure, right? It's a way of introducing ourselves at the dinner party or writing in our Instagram bio or whatever it is. But I think it is important to invite those deeper questions of, ‘Well, who am I underneath all of these layers? And if everything were to be stripped away, who would I be?’ ”

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This episode of the TWLOHA podcast was hosted by Chad Moses and produced by Lindsay Kolsch, with editorial support by Rebecca Ebert. Music assistance was provided by James Likeness and Ben Tichenor.


duck syndrome, meditation, mental health, anxiety, therapy
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